unable to navigate to .directories now

[GP lisper]

I haven't needed to save a download in a .dir in several versions of
LINUX opera, of course those are rather common in linux, including
.opera itself.

Now the fancy windows dialog has lost that basic ability while gaining
all that useless flashy look, today's programmers are apparently
valued for form over substance. The Peter Principal appears in all
places I suppose, even in the (what used to be) mean and lean fast
webbrowsers.

Perhaps there is some config someplace to fix this? Maybe the
increasing number of 'opera is bad' posts here are more correct that
I've thought.

[David W. Hodgins]

Post by GP lisper
I haven't needed to save a download in a .dir in several versions of
LINUX opera, of course those are rather common in linux, including
.opera itself.
Now the fancy windows dialog has lost that basic ability while gaining

Right click on any file or directory name in the file selection
dialog, and select Show hidden files.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[Angel Chacon]

Alternatively, (if you are using nautilus) you can press CTRL+H. Or go to
'View' > 'Show hidden files'.

[Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen]

Post by David W. Hodgins

Post by GP lisper
I haven't needed to save a download in a .dir in several versions of
LINUX opera, of course those are rather common in linux, including
.opera itself.
Now the fancy windows dialog has lost that basic ability while gaining

Opera for linux currently has three file dialogs to choose from. If we
think the user prefers kde, we'll use the kde file dialog and if we
think the user prefers gnome we'll use the gtk file dialog. If neither
kde nor gtk is available, we'll use a file dialog that we've made
ourselves using only x11. If we can't make a guess about what the user
wants, I think we default to the gtk dialog, but I'm not sure about
this.

I would assume that the gtk and kde dialogs will work the same way as in
any other gtk/kde application. In any case, I doubt we have much
influence on how they work.

If I remember correctly, the "x11" file dialog used to be a simple input
field where you could type the file name. I expect that still works in
the new file dialog :)

Post by David W. Hodgins
Right click on any file or directory name in the file selection
dialog, and select Show hidden files.

Hmm, maybe not the most obvious place to look...

eirik

[David W. Hodgins]

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Opera for linux currently has three file dialogs to choose from. If we
think the user prefers kde, we'll use the kde file dialog and if we

Using kde 4.4.3 here. The main problem is that it usually takes anywhere
from 5 to 10 seconds, before the file selection dialog appears as an item
I can select from the panel. It doesn't get brought to the foreground of
the desktop, requiring the user to notice that the file selection dialog
is now available, and then click on it, before selecting the directory,
or file.

The file/directory selection dialog not only needs to be started, it
needs to be brought to the foreground, and given focus.

The current situation makes opera look like a very slow application, with
very poor user interaction. I understand the slowness problem is caused
by dolphin (the kde4 file selection dialog), but for anyone who doesn't
figure out where the slowness is coming from, it appears to be a problem
with opera.

Please bring back a file/directory choosing method that doesn't do any
previews, or anything else that slows it down, or makes the user click on
a background panel item to enter their selection.

The file/directory selection dialog in older versions of opera was much
more efficient, as it quickly popped up, and just worked. Starting a
full instance of the desktop manager's file manager just to select a
directory or file doesn't make sense to me, either as a former programmer,
or as a user.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen]

Post by David W. Hodgins

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
Opera for linux currently has three file dialogs to choose from. If we
think the user prefers kde, we'll use the kde file dialog and if we

Using kde 4.4.3 here. The main problem is that it usually takes anywhere
from 5 to 10 seconds, before the file selection dialog appears as an item
I can select from the panel. It doesn't get brought to the foreground of
the desktop, requiring the user to notice that the file selection dialog
is now available, and then click on it, before selecting the directory,
or file.
The file/directory selection dialog not only needs to be started, it
needs to be brought to the foreground, and given focus.

That sounds like a bug. I don't see that under e16, though. Maybe file
a bug report, and make sure to include which window manager you are
using?

Post by David W. Hodgins
The current situation makes opera look like a very slow application, with
very poor user interaction. I understand the slowness problem is caused
by dolphin (the kde4 file selection dialog), but for anyone who doesn't
figure out where the slowness is coming from, it appears to be a problem
with opera.
Please bring back a file/directory choosing method that doesn't do any
previews, or anything else that slows it down, or makes the user click on
a background panel item to enter their selection.
The file/directory selection dialog in older versions of opera was much
more efficient, as it quickly popped up, and just worked. Starting a
full instance of the desktop manager's file manager just to select a
directory or file doesn't make sense to me, either as a former programmer,
or as a user.

Most users who use the kde desktop probably prefers the kde file dialog.
We used to get plenty of bug reports about that.

If you just want a plain file dialog, you probably want the X11 file
dialog (at least now with opera 11, when it actually works). In
opera:config, search for "toolkit". I'm not sure which number
corresponds to which toolkit. I think the valid values are 1-4, except
that one of them is obsolete (qt).

eirik

[Jens Schuessler]

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
If you just want a plain file dialog, you probably want the X11 file
dialog (at least now with opera 11, when it actually works). In
opera:config, search for "toolkit". I'm not sure which number
corresponds to which toolkit. I think the valid values are 1-4, except
that one of them is obsolete (qt).

opera:config#FileSelector|DialogToolkit
0 Autodetect
1 QT
2 GTK
3 KDE

[Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen]

Post by Jens Schuessler

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
If you just want a plain file dialog, you probably want the X11 file
dialog (at least now with opera 11, when it actually works). In
opera:config, search for "toolkit". I'm not sure which number
corresponds to which toolkit. I think the valid values are 1-4, except
that one of them is obsolete (qt).

opera:config#FileSelector|DialogToolkit
0 Autodetect
1 QT
2 GTK
3 KDE

Then I guess:

4 X11

(but I haven't actually checked)

eirik

[Jens Schuessler]

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen

Post by Jens Schuessler

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
If you just want a plain file dialog, you probably want the X11 file
dialog (at least now with opera 11, when it actually works). In
opera:config, search for "toolkit". I'm not sure which number
corresponds to which toolkit. I think the valid values are 1-4, except
that one of them is obsolete (qt).

opera:config#FileSelector|DialogToolkit
0 Autodetect
1 QT
2 GTK
3 KDE

That's what a click on the ? says.

Post by Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen
4 X11
(but I haven't actually checked)

Correct, checked it already.
Interesting effect: 1 and 3 crashed Opera (no KDE insutalled here),
Autodetect brings GTK.

[Frank Bell]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:46:27 -0500, David W. Hodgins

Post by David W. Hodgins
Right click on any file or directory name in the file selection
dialog, and select Show hidden files.

Thanks, Dave.

I've been wanting to turn off the "hidden files" for some time now but not
enough to actually look up how to do it. Now I know.